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02/27/2007 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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08:02:27 AM Presentation of the Local Boundary Commission
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Dan Bockhorst, Department of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                       February 27, 2007                                                                                        
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Anna Fairclough, Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Woodie Salmon                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION OF THE LOCAL BOUNDARY COMMISSION                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DARROLL HARGRAVES, Chair                                                                                                        
Local Boundary Commission                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided the Local Boundary Commission's                                                                   
report and a brief overview.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN BOCKHORST, Local Boundary Commission                                                                                        
Division of Community Advocacy                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community, & Economic Development                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the Local Boundary Commission's                                                                     
presentation, answered questions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GABRIELLE   LEDOUX  called  the  House   Community  and                                                             
Regional Affairs  Standing Committee meeting to  order at 8:02:04                                                             
AM.   Representatives LeDoux,  Fairclough, Dahlstrom,  and Neuman                                                             
were present  at the call  to order.  Representatives  Cissna and                                                               
Salmon arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^^Presentation of the Local Boundary Commission                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:02:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be the presentation from the Local Boundary Commission.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:02:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARROLL HARGRAVES, Chair, Local  Boundary Commission (LBC), noted                                                               
that  the committee  should have  the  Local Boundary  Commission                                                               
report, which has three chapters.   The first chapter provides an                                                               
overview of  the LBC.   The  second chapter  summarizes municipal                                                               
boundary activities  and pending proposals  for 2006.   The third                                                               
chapter discusses public policy issues of interest to the LBC.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:04:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  explained that the  first chapter relates  that of                                                               
the 120 state boards and commissions,  the LBC is only one of two                                                               
executive branch  boards named in the  Alaska State Constitution.                                                               
The framers of the constitution provided  for the LBC in order to                                                               
ensure  that  municipal  boundary  issues  would  be  dealt  with                                                               
objectively  and  from  a statewide  perspective.    The  framers                                                               
recognized  that  city  and  borough  governments,  as  political                                                               
subdivisions of  the state,  were critical  to the  efficient and                                                               
effective   delivery    of   public   services.       The   LBC's                                                               
responsibilities include  judging proposals for  incorporation of                                                               
cities  and boroughs,  annexation to  and detachment  from cities                                                               
and boroughs,  reclassification of cities, dissolution  of cities                                                               
and  boroughs,  and  merger  and   consolidation  of  cities  and                                                               
boroughs.    He highlighted  that  the  LBC has  other  mandatory                                                               
duties,  which have  resulted from  actions  by the  legislature.                                                               
These mandatory duties  include an obligation to  make studies of                                                               
local   government  boundary   problems  and   adopt  regulations                                                               
establishing standards  and procedures for boundary  actions.  He                                                               
related that  the LBC consists of  four members one from  each of                                                               
Alaska's judicial districts  and the fifth member,  the chair, is                                                               
appointed  at-large member.   Mr.  Hargraves then  introduced the                                                               
LBC members:   Robert  Hicks, Dr.  Robert Harcharek,  Dr. Anthony                                                               
Nakazawa,  and Georgianna  Zimmerle.   He further  explained that                                                               
members are  appointed by the governor  for five-year overlapping                                                               
terms.  Commission  members offer their time as  a public service                                                               
and  receive  no  compensation  for  it.    These  are  volunteer                                                               
positions,  he  said.    In  response  to  Co-Chair  LeDoux,  Mr.                                                               
Hargraves  related   that  the   commissioners  receive   a  food                                                               
allowance.   Mr.  Hargraves highlighted  that  the Department  of                                                               
Commerce, Community, & Economic  Development (DCCED) provides the                                                               
staff, Mr. Bockhorst, to the LBC.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:09:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES moved on to the  second chapter of the report.  The                                                               
reported activities  range from those involving  formal petitions                                                               
filed with  the LBC to  prospective proposals  being contemplated                                                               
at the  local level.   In 2006,  the reported  activities include                                                               
review of city incorporations on six  proposals.  In fact, in one                                                               
case the LBC  acted on a formal petition to  incorporate a second                                                               
class city  government in Naukati,  a community  of approximately                                                               
105  residents on  Prince  of Wales  Island,  in the  unorganized                                                               
borough.  The LBC has  also dealt with city annexations involving                                                               
at  least  10  city  governments,   one  formal  city  annexation                                                               
petition was  pending before the  LBC last  year.  He  noted that                                                               
many  of   these  petitions  are  ultimately   withdrawn  by  the                                                               
petitioners.   In  2006, the  LBC  considered city  dissolutions,                                                               
city reclassifications,  and borough incorporations.   During the                                                               
past  year,  16  areas  of  the state  have  had  some  level  of                                                               
activity.  In fact, one  borough annexation petition is currently                                                               
pending before the  LBC and six boroughs  have expressed interest                                                               
in  consolidation.   This past  year the  LBC went  into a  heavy                                                               
schedule,  with  the  support  of   DCCED,  in  order  to  update                                                               
regulations that  haven't been  addressed in over  a decade.   In                                                               
fact, after  this week the  LBC will, throughout the  state, hold                                                               
its  second set  of hearings  on these  regulations.   He related                                                               
that  the  intention   is  to  complete  [the   revision  of  the                                                               
regulations] by June 30, 2007.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:13:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  continued with  the third  chapter of  the report,                                                               
which  he characterized  as  the most  important  section of  the                                                               
report as  it relates what  the LBC  views as the  most important                                                               
policy  issues.   Of the  five policy  issues, he  identified the                                                               
following:     increasing   difficulties  in   rendering  borough                                                               
boundary  decisions; a  general  lack of  incentives for  borough                                                               
incorporation; and the  absence of methods and  standards for the                                                               
establishment of unorganized boroughs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:14:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN recalled  the passage  of House  Bill 130,                                                               
which  allowed  the university  to  choose  250,000 acres  to  be                                                               
matched from  the federal government.   He related his  view that                                                               
the  aforementioned  is  an   opportunity  to  help  communities,                                                               
particularly in  Southeast Alaska which is  surrounded by federal                                                               
lands.  Therefore,  he inquired as to whether the  LBC has looked                                                               
into  this  to  identify  any   of  these  federal  lands  around                                                               
Southeast  Alaska in  order to  provide  a land  base to  support                                                               
boroughs,  because some  communities simply  don't have  the land                                                               
base  with the  resource  development  opportunities required  to                                                               
support a borough government.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES replied  no, but said that the LBC  is aware of it.                                                               
He  said  that   the  LBC's  activities  have   been  limited  to                                                               
encouraging  incentives.     He  agreed  that   land  just  isn't                                                               
available  as an  incentive  for  incorporation, particularly  in                                                               
Southeast  Alaska.     Mr. Hargraves  said,  "Since lands  aren't                                                               
available, we're also aware that  some legislators, from time-to-                                                               
time, have proposed  some pretty heavy payment  -- actual dollars                                                               
in place of the lands."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   NEUMAN   inquired   as    to   the   status   of                                                               
Representative Thomas's  legislation to create boroughs  that was                                                               
introduced last year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES deferred to Mr. Bockhorst.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:17:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN BOCKHORST,  Local Boundary Commission, Division  of Community                                                               
Advocacy,   Department  of   Commerce,   Community,  &   Economic                                                               
Development,  recalled that  Representative Thomas's  legislation                                                               
didn't pass the legislature.   He further recalled that it didn't                                                               
even  pass from  this committee.   The  legislation included  the                                                               
grant provision  for newly formed  borough governments  with very                                                               
little land.   Under a municipal land  entitlement program, these                                                               
newly  formed boroughs  would,  as  an organizational  incentive,                                                               
receive $15  million.  If the  area had a certain  level of land,                                                               
$12  million would  be provided.    He recalled  that there  were                                                               
other aspects  of Representative  Thomas's legislation  that were                                                               
of  concern for  some, such  as  the creation  of a  new type  of                                                               
borough government without education powers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:19:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  inquired  as  to  why  an  unorganized  borough                                                               
resident would want to form a borough and pay property taxes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  acknowledged that is  how some view  the situation                                                               
rather than seeing the incentives.   He indicated that there is a                                                               
level of financial funding that  would encourage the formation of                                                               
boroughs.   However,  the  state  isn't likely  to  fund at  that                                                               
level,  he  opined.   Therefore,  the  LBC can  merely  encourage                                                               
incentives for those places where it's feasible to incorporate.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX inquired  as to  how many  boroughs have  formed                                                               
voluntarily.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOCKHORST   specified  that  currently  there   are  sixteen                                                               
organized boroughs, eight of which  formed voluntarily.  In terms                                                               
of  numbers   residents,  he  highlighted  that   96  percent  of                                                               
residents  who  live  in organized  boroughs  live  in  organized                                                               
boroughs  established by  the 1963  Mandatory Borough  Act.   The                                                               
aforementioned, he indicated, highlights  that the problem of the                                                               
lack  of  incentives has  been  in  place  for  some time.    The                                                               
aforementioned Act  resulted in the formation  of eight boroughs,                                                               
after  which  the  policy  returned  to  the  prior  practice  of                                                               
allowing  boroughs to  form  voluntarily.   As  indicated by  Mr.                                                               
Hargraves,  boroughs  form when  there  is  an attractive  enough                                                               
incentive  to take  on  that local  responsibility.   In  further                                                               
response  to  Co-Chair LeDoux,  Mr.  Bockhorst  related that  the                                                               
first borough to  form [voluntarily] was the  Bristol Bay Borough                                                               
and it formed because it was  able to tax the fishing and canning                                                               
industry.  The resources from those  taxes were used to build and                                                               
fund schools.   The next borough that formed  voluntarily was the                                                               
Haines  Borough, which  formed  due to  heavy  pressure from  the                                                               
state  to  address  education  matters.    From  that  point  on,                                                               
boroughs  organized  in  regions   taking  advantage  of  natural                                                               
resources.  Currently, the Deltana  region has a pending petition                                                               
to organize due to the presence  of the Pogo Mine.  Mr. Bockhorst                                                               
noted that not every organized  borough in Alaska levies property                                                               
taxes.  In  fact, four of the five boroughs  that recently formed                                                               
don't levy property taxes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX   surmised  then   that  boroughs   have  formed                                                               
voluntarily when there  has been an opportunity to  tax those who                                                               
live outside of the borough.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST noted his agreement.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:26:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON  inquired as to  the progress of  the Delta                                                               
incorporation petition.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST  related that  on March  16th the  LBC will  hold a                                                               
public  hearing in  Delta Junction  to consider  the petition  to                                                               
incorporate  a   Deltana  Borough.    The   aforementioned  would                                                               
dissolve  Delta  Junction  and  establish  a  home  rule  borough                                                               
government  encompassing   the  existing   Delta-Greely  Regional                                                               
Education Attendance  Area.  He  expected that the LBC  will have                                                               
rendered a decision on that matter by the end of March.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:27:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH inquired  as to  how much  money is  flowing                                                               
into incorporated areas.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  said he didn't know,  but noted that the  LBC does                                                               
periodically review the  areas of that state  that are developing                                                               
faster.   He  assured the  committee that  there are  "hot spots"                                                               
[areas] that do  have a considerable amount of  per capita income                                                               
and wealth available, which is  due to the development of natural                                                               
resources  in some  areas.   He added  that land  and legislative                                                               
funds  aren't  the  only incentives  for  borough  formation,  as                                                               
evidenced by borough  formation in areas where  there are natural                                                               
resources that the area seeks to protect or develop.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH clarified  that her question is  in regard to                                                               
the  disincentive  provided  at  the  state  level  by  providing                                                               
funding  without  requirements to  organize  an  area.   Co-Chair                                                               
Fairclough opined  that although  she didn't want  to discontinue                                                               
services to  communities, continued funding from  the state [with                                                               
no  requirements] won't  cause people  to take  responsibility or                                                               
control of  their own  area.   Therefore, the  legislature should                                                               
either  commit to  funding unincorporated  boroughs or  determine                                                               
how to change the program to encourage areas to take control.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:29:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES returned  to his presentation with  regard to other                                                               
policy  issues, including  the absence  of standards  and methods                                                               
for  the  establishment  of  unorganized  boroughs;  funding  for                                                               
borough  feasibility studies;  and compensation  of LBC  members.                                                               
He pointed  out that  Article X,  Section 3  of the  Alaska State                                                               
Constitution  calls  for  all  of   Alaska  to  be  divided  into                                                               
boroughs,   whether  organized   or   unorganized,   and  to   be                                                               
established  per standards  and methods  specified in  law.   The                                                               
constitution  also calls  for a  minimum number  of boroughs  and                                                               
that  each borough  embrace  an area  in  population with  common                                                               
interest  to the  maximum  degree  possible.   In  1963 only  one                                                               
borough had  formed, which lead  to the  aforementioned Mandatory                                                               
Borough  Act  requiring  eight  regions  of  the  state  to  form                                                               
boroughs.   The  eight regions  encompassed about  80 percent  of                                                               
Alaska's  population, which  has increased  to about  84 percent.                                                               
Six  of the  seven members  of the  House Community  and Regional                                                               
Affairs Standing  Committee live  in boroughs that  were mandated                                                               
by the  Act.  Mr.  Hargraves then opined  that there is  a common                                                               
misperception  that unorganized  areas  can't  afford to  operate                                                               
boroughs.  Studies  performed by the LBC,  DCCED, and independent                                                               
consultants  indicate  that   the  aforementioned  perception  is                                                               
correct for a  few areas, but not for every  region of the state.                                                               
Therefore,  the  LBC  can't suggest  merely  incorporating  every                                                               
unorganized area.   In response  to these circumstances,  the LBC                                                               
endorses  legislative  action  to  reform  the  policy  regarding                                                               
borough incorporation, establish  meaningful incentives for areas                                                               
of the state to form  organized boroughs, and establish standards                                                               
and  methods for  the creation  of multiple  regional unorganized                                                               
boroughs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES  then related  the  need  to address  funding  for                                                               
borough feasibility  studies.  Although the  legislature provided                                                               
some  funding last  year  for borough  studies  in four  regions,                                                               
there is  no source of  funding for  new borough studies  at this                                                               
time.  Therefore, the LBC  encourages the legislature to continue                                                               
to  fund studies  for those  areas  interested in  incorporation.                                                               
Mr.  Hargraves concluded  with  the  LBC's compensation  request,                                                               
which  he characterized  as a  token expression  of appreciation.                                                               
The growing  number of proposals  before the LBC has  resulted in                                                               
the unpaid  commissioners of the  LBC devoting  increased amounts                                                               
of time to carry  the business of the LBC.   For example, for one                                                               
proceeding alone  one member  reported that  he had  devoted over                                                               
350  hours, which  is the  equivalent  of almost  9 40-hour  work                                                               
weeks.   Therefore, the commissioners  believe that  some measure                                                               
of compensation  should be offered to  the commission, especially                                                               
since the work of the LBC is an ongoing every day affair.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:37:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH asked  if  there  is an  average  fee for  a                                                               
borough feasibility study.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST answered that of  the projects funded last year, it                                                               
was on  average $75,000.   Those were contracted out  to multiple                                                               
contractors.   In  2006, the  legislature appropriated  money and                                                               
the  department   contracted,  through   professional  consultant                                                               
services.    In  further  response to  Co-Chair  Fairclough,  Mr.                                                               
Bockhorst related that  the LBC took a  "hands-off" approach with                                                               
regard  to the  contractors  based on  the  possibility that  the                                                               
prospect could evolve.  However,  he offered to provide the names                                                               
of all the contractors.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  noted the  lack of  success [with  regard to                                                               
incorporation].      Therefore,   she  questioned   whether   the                                                               
methodology or  the selection  process of  the vendors  should be                                                               
reviewed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST opined  that there's a valley  between conducting a                                                               
borough  feasibility  study  and  moving to  the  next  stage  of                                                               
borough   incorporation.     In  the   past  30   years,  borough                                                               
feasibility  studies   have  been  performed  for   most  of  the                                                               
unorganized areas.  As mentioned  by Mr. Hargraves, those studies                                                               
have  demonstrated  that  the  regions do  have  the  fiscal  and                                                               
administrative   capacity   to   operate   borough   governments.                                                               
Although the current policy/practice  is that boroughs are formed                                                               
through local initiative, it's possible  that the LBC could bring                                                               
proposals to  the legislature.   However, the LBC hasn't  done so                                                               
thus far.   Therefore,  the feasibility  study isn't  intended or                                                               
guaranteed to initiate  borough formation, rather it's  a tool to                                                               
determine the  capacity, voting  structure, services,  and fiscal                                                               
consequences of borough formation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:41:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  inquired as  to the last  time the  scope of                                                               
the project  for the  request for proposals  (RFP) for  the study                                                               
was reviewed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST  explained that the  work done  as a result  of the                                                               
2006  appropriations  was  a  fresh  look at  the  scope  of  the                                                               
project.   Prior to that time,  the more common approach  was for                                                               
the department or LBC to perform the study.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH requested  a  copy  of the  RFP.   She  then                                                               
turned to the  request for compensation, as discussed  on page 99                                                               
subsection (c).   She inquired as to what the  LBC believes other                                                               
boards and commissions receive that it does not.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HARGRAVES  related   that  some   members  of   boards  and                                                               
commissions  are paid  per  meeting  or a  monthly  stipend.   He                                                               
related his preference for the stipend concept.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  pointed out that stipends  are taxable while                                                               
per diem isn't.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES related his agreement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:44:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON clarified that  although he doesn't live in                                                               
an  organized area,  he still  pays taxes  [for property  that he                                                               
owns in an organized area].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:45:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CISSNA   returned    to   the   incentives   and                                                               
disincentives.    She  recalled  the  Alaska  Municipal  League's                                                               
mention  that many  areas are  struggling  to pay  the bills  for                                                               
having a government.  She asked  how many of the communities that                                                               
have failed are located in unorganized boroughs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES  recalled that a few  years ago there were  a large                                                               
number  of  requests for  dissolution,  all  of which  were  from                                                               
unorganized  areas.   However, there  hasn't been  such proposals                                                               
come before the LBC in recent years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOCKHORST   pointed  out  that   formation  of   a  regional                                                               
government provides  broader jurisdiction with regard  to levying                                                               
taxes,  collecting  revenues,  taking  on  responsibilities,  and                                                               
achieving economies  of scale that  aren't always available  at a                                                               
community level.   There  are areas of  the state,  organized and                                                               
unorganized, that  have economic difficulties.   However, some of                                                               
the   poorest   communities   in   the   state   have   education                                                               
responsibilities as  home rule and  first class cities,  which is                                                               
important in regard to the foundation formula.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:49:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  related that her review  of health systems                                                               
in the state have illustrated  that telemedicine, technology, and                                                               
local training have  made a difference.  Therefore,  she asked if                                                               
any thought  has been given  to offering training with  regard to                                                               
writing grants and organizing better.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HARGRAVES pointed  out that  DCCED has  divisions that  work                                                               
with local governments  on such matters.  Although  the LBC could                                                               
recommend encouraging such activities,  the LBC wouldn't actually                                                               
perform such activities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:51:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON asked if the  Pebble Mine is within borough                                                               
boundaries                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX replied  yes,  adding that  the  Pebble Mine  is                                                               
located within the Lake & Peninsula Borough.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:52:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH acknowledged  the hard work of the  LBC.  She                                                               
questioned   whether  the   committee  would   want  to   form  a                                                               
subcommittee,  including  rural  Representatives, to  review  the                                                               
LBC's recommendations  and whether  the committee  should sponsor                                                               
legislation based  on any  of those.   She  then related  her own                                                               
situation  in  which  the community  that  she  represents  would                                                               
probably support the Municipality  of Anchorage not having taxing                                                               
authority  over  it,  but  the   community  does  enjoy  services                                                               
provided by that municipality.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:54:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM suggested that  prior to any legislation                                                               
lots  of  review  of  the  LBC's  recommendations  is  necessary.                                                               
Representative Dahlstrom  noted her support of  a subcommittee or                                                               
another committee with members from the Senate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SALMON opined that it's  [necessary] to find a tax                                                               
base to  go along with  the recommendation [to  organize] because                                                               
many of the unorganized areas  don't receive government contracts                                                               
and need something to sustain a government.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARGRAVES concluded by offering  to the committee the LBC and                                                               
DCCED staff as a resource.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:57:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 8:58 a.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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